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1 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 11:29:56am

Really? Voter Fraud? Are you sure?


I could copy all the excuses used to minimize Acorn and what they did nation wide in the 2008 election, but it would be a waste of time.

Sigh.

2 Locker  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 11:57:05am

re: #1 Buck

Really? Voter Fraud? Are you sure?

I could copy all the excuses used to minimize Acorn and what they did nation wide in the 2008 election, but it would be a waste of time.

Sigh.

Why not copy all of the actual cases of voter fraud by Acorn which would be zero.

3 mr.fusion  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 12:12:41pm

re: #1 Buck

Really? Voter Fraud? Are you sure?

I could copy all the excuses used to minimize Acorn and what they did nation wide in the 2008 election, but it would be a waste of time.

Sigh.

And I could just as easily copy all the indignant pearl clutching used to maximize ACORN and the lies about what they DIDN'T do during the 2008 election, but it would be a waste of time

4 cinesimon  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 12:41:14pm

re: #1 Buck

You do know that your dishonesty is very obvious? That your refusal to accept reality is just a sign of your childishness?

5 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:46:24pm

re: #2 Locker

Why not copy all of the actual cases of voter fraud by Acorn which would be zero.

For Acorn, true because they were a company. However for employees of Acorn? Lots of registration fraud, which is what this article is talking about.

6 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:47:52pm

re: #3 mr.fusion

You can say that there were lies. That does not make it so.

7 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:49:23pm

re: #4 cinesimon

You do know that your dishonesty is very obvious? That your refusal to accept reality is just a sign of your childishness?

And which reality am I not accepting? Where am I being dishonest?

You want to back up your slander? Or maybe all you can do is make personal attacks.

8 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 1:58:59pm

re: #1 Buck

Really? Voter Fraud? Are you sure?

I could copy all the excuses used to minimize Acorn and what they did nation wide in the 2008 election, but it would be a waste of time.

Sigh.

The whole republican party and it's platform is a fraud.

9 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 2:04:18pm

Well, not Zero:

In Nevada, ACORN pleaded guilty to one felony count of unlawful compensation for registration of voters, stemming from an illegal voter registration scheme in its Las Vegas office during in the 2008 race.
Nevada forbids compensating voter registration canvassers because it creates a financial incentive for fraudulent or sloppy registrations.

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Kevin L. Clancy of Milwaukee pleaded guilty last week to participating “in a scheme to submit fraudulent voter registration applications,” according to Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen. Clancy admitted to filing multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals and registering himself and other voter registration canvassers to vote multiple times while working on an ACORN voter drive.
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Democratic Committeeman Anthony DeFiglio pleaded guilty to falsifying business records in the case, and he told investigators that "The people who are targeted [in voter fraud cases] live in low-income housing and there is a sense that they are a lot less likely to ask any questions." Even more disturbing was his admission that "What appears as a huge conspiracy to nonpolitical persons is really a normal political tactic."
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Four Democrats associated with ACORN’s political party, New York’s Working Families Party, have entered guilty pleas in connection with an illegal scheme in Troy, N.Y.

As Eric Shawn of Fox News reports, signatures were forged on absentee ballots in the Working Families Party primary in 2009. The four men to have pleaded guilty are former Troy Democratic City Clerk William McInerney, Democratic Councilman John Brown, and Democratic Party operatives Anthony Renna and Anthony DeFiglio.
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Colorado's Secretary of State reported that a state study found nearly 12,000 people registered to vote in Colorado who were not citizens and were therefore not legally eligible to vote. Of those, the state believes that perhaps as many as 5,000 voted in the 2010 general election.
[Link: thehill.com...]
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In 2004, six St. Louis volunteers pleaded guilty to dozens of voter-fraud charges, including registering the names of dead or non-existent people. It is believed that ACORN's "Operation Big Vote" turned in over 1,500 fraudulent voter registration cards. In 2006, ACORN turned in tens of thousands of suspect voter registration forms to Missouri elections officials, and ACORN workers later admitted to telling registrants who to vote for. And, demonstrating a profound and vexing consistency, four more ACORN employees were indicted for voter fraud in 2007.
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Victims of Voter Fraud: Poor and Disadvantaged are Most Likely to Have Their Vote Stolen
by Horace Cooper
[Link: www.nationalcenter.org...]

You have to read it. Lots of footnotes.
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10 Buck  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 2:04:37pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Of course it is.

11 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 2:23:40pm

re: #9 Buck

Voter registration fraud is not voting fraud. But you already knew that.

12 mr.fusion  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 2:31:39pm

re: #6 Buck

You can say that there were lies. That does not make it so.

You can say there weren't lies. That doesn't make it so

Link

A man fired from ACORN's San Diego-area office for discussing human smuggling with a fake pimp and prostitute reported the incident to police two days after it happened, according to information released by the police. Juan Carlos Vera was fired by ACORN after a videotape was aired on Fox News showing him discussing with a couple posed as a pimp and a prostitute the best ways to smuggle underage prostitutes into the U.S. from El Salvador.

"It's better if it's in Tijuana," Vera is heard saying in the video. "Because I have a lot of contacts in Tijuana."

But police said in a press release that Vera reported the incident to his cousin, a detective with the National City Police Department. Vera worked in ACORN's National City office. The detective contacted a federal task force that deals with human smuggling, and an officer from the task force asked for more details.

13 Obdicut  Fri, Sep 28, 2012 4:00:26pm

It looks like this was voter registration fraud and not voter fraud, however, since it was attempting to register dead people, there is a much higher likelihood of an attempt to vote with that than there is in signing up Donald Duck.

So Buck is actually right, this isn't voter fraud. However, the pattern is much worse than ACORN's people cheating ACORN by signing up Donald Duck and other fictitious names, since ACORN always highlighted those registrations they felt were iffy before handing them in-- this firm has not done that, it apparently has no quality control.


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