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1 chadu  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:28:00pm

Jeebus Christ, the fact that the Keystone threatens the Ogallala Aquifer needs to be talked about.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

2 Buck  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:03:49pm

re: #1 chadu

Jeebus Christ, the fact that the Keystone threatens the Ogallala Aquifer needs to be talked about.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

From your link:

In August 2011, an environmental-impact report by the U.S. State Department found that the Sandhills route would be the most economically feasible, and would be unlikely to have significant environmental impacts.

3 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:00:20pm

Regulator probing ‘safety culture’ at TransCanada Pipelines

Former TransCanada engineer Evan Vokes said he reported the company’s substandard practices to the NEB because he believed the company’s management, including its chief executive officer, refused to act on his complaints.

In an exclusive television interview with CBC News, Vokes said he raised concerns about the competency of some pipeline inspectors and the company’s lack of compliance with welding regulations set by the National Energy Board, the federal energy industry regulator.

“I wrote a series of emails to a series of project managers saying, ‘We can’t do this practice, we can’t do this practice, we can’t do this practice,’” Vokes said. “And I received increasingly pressured emails about how things were OK to do it that way.”

4 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:02:31pm

TransCanada in Eminent Domain Fight Over Pipeline

A Canadian company has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.

Randy Thompson, a cattle buyer in Nebraska, was informed that if he did not grant pipeline access to 80 of the 400 acres left to him by his mother along the Platte River, “Keystone will use eminent domain to acquire the easement.” Sue Kelso and her large extended family in Oklahoma were sued in the local district court by TransCanada, the pipeline company, after she and her siblings refused to allow the pipeline to cross their pasture.

5 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:05:02pm

Keystone XL Oil Pipeline: Today’s Most Explosive Environmental Debate

Both of these figures have been the subject of withering attacks. A report by the Cornell University Global Labor Institute found that the Perryman group inflated the amount TransCanada planned to spend building the pipeline in the U.S. and wildly overestimated the number of jobs that money would realistically create. Meanwhile, Michael Levi of the Council on Foreign Relations offered up an analysis of why the extra oil wouldn’t have that dramatic an effect on the U.S. economy. His most compelling argument: The world consumes 90 million barrels of oil a day. The Keystone XL pipeline will, realistically, only add about 560,000 barrels of capacity. In the scheme of things, that’s just not much.

6 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:08:26pm

TransCanada’s record presents a strong case for rejecting Keystone XL tar sands pipeline (again)

Canadian pipeline regulators have announced a sweeping audit of TransCanada’s Canadian operations after confirming the account of a whistleblower documenting repeated violations of pipeline safety regulations by the company. This is the latest in a long series of accidents, shutdowns and pipeline safety infractions that have hounded the Canadian pipeline operator TransCanada, the sponsor of the embattled Keystone XL tar sands pipeline. Earlier this month, TransCanada was forced to shut its leak prone Keystone I tar sands pipeline down for four days after finding an “anomaly” – a technical term for cracks, corrosion or other defects in a pipeline which may lead to a rupture. Meanwhile, an investigative report revealed that TransCanada was aware of significant quality problems with it new Bison pipeline months before it exploded. Investigations by pipeline regulators and a succession of TransCanada whistleblowers paint a picture of a company that cuts corners compromising the safety of its pipelines, ignores its own quality control inspectors, and regards the minimum legal bar established by safety regulations as optional guidelines. The Keystone XL tar sands pipeline raises a variety of complex and significant issues, including the environmental impact of tar sands development, the risks associated with transporting it and the greater impact of tar sands spills. However TransCanada’s performance over the last few years introduces a much simpler question – should we trust this company to build and operate any kind of pipeline, anywhere?

7 Bob Dillon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:16:58pm

I wonder what the reaction would be in BC to running the pipeline over to Vancouver and then ship everything by tanker from there.

8 Interesting Times  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:23:16pm

re: #7 Bob Dillon

I wonder what the reaction would be in BC to running the pipeline over to Vancouver and then ship everything by tanker from there.

Assuming your question is serious, the reaction is heaps of protests. Plenty of Canadians, unlike the writer you quoted, have enough sense not to fall for fossil fuel propaganda - for example, Enbridge really pulled a doozy which shows how much contempt they have for other humans and how stupid they think we are:

If a tar sands pipeline and supertankers project looks too dangerous, what do you do? If you’re Enbridge, you delete islands off of public videos and maps to convince the public the project is less dangerous than it really is.

See for yourself. And tell me again why I should trust one word the fossil fuel industry spews.

9 Varek Raith  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 4:42:56pm

No.

10 garhighway  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:37:35am

I’d like to better understand the carbon emission implications of bringing those tar sands to market. We (the big “we”, the Earth’s population) needs to get serious about how much carbon we emit. Is this project something that makes the problem worse or better?

11 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:49:58am

re: #10 garhighway

Is this project something that makes the problem worse or better?

Much, much, much, much worse:

Previous studies have vastly underestimated the carbon footprint of the Canadian oil sands by not considering the industry’s impact on peatlands, according to new research.

Scientists from the University of Alberta found that 10 operational oil sands mining projects would destroy enough peatlands to release 11.4 million to 47.3 million metric tons of stored carbon into the atmosphere. That release is the equivalent of seven years’ worth of emissions from the oil sands mining region.


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