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1 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jul 29, 2013 6:58:08pm

One of the best postings ever. This really should be on the main page. I’ve already book-marked it, and added a link into my “things to piss off my tea-party co-workers with” folder. (yes, it’s really called that).

I think it’s important that we don’t allow the right-wing to define the debate with lies. We’ve got to hammer the facts again and again, until they start to make some headway against the maelstrom of misinformation the wingnuts repeat like some sacred manta. I’m about done with being tactful, from now on when I hear stupid lies being paraded at true and verified facts I’m going to correct them publicly and without remorse. If you repeat lies as truths to me, I’m going to make you regret it.

Shine the light on them, get bigger lights, make them scurry away like the cockroaches that they are.

RBS
Yes, I am getting more bitter as I age. Probably a bad cork

2 majii  Mon, Jul 29, 2013 7:23:52pm

The present day Republican Party is not the party of Lincoln or Eisenhower. This is what these tools refuse to acknowledge. Rand Paul made the same mistake at Howard University a few months ago, thinking that the black students didn’t know their pre-and-post 1964 U.S. history. To his great embarrassment, they did. There’s no way current republicans can claim to be like pre-1964 republicans in any way. Reaching back over 200 years ago to grab Lincoln’s hand won’t help them because too many democrats know more about the nation’s history than they think we do. Furthermore, just because they want to deny the racism, bigotry, and hatefulness in today’s GOP doesn’t mean that other Americans don’t see it. IIRC, a research report college republicans did after the last presidential election indicated that one of the the words associated with republicans the most was racists. They can keep polishing that turd, but until they stop doing/saying the things they’re doing/saying about minorities, LGBTQ Americans, and women, they’re wasting their time and energy. Also, Martin Beshear said on his program today that Americans who self-identify as republican is down to 21%. They’re ignoring all of the signs and thinking that if they double down on their efforts to rewrite history through Groundswell, by paying RW Twitter users and bloggers, they can change the way most Americans view them. Good luck with that. Ingrained misanthropy, misogyny, sexism, homophobia, racism and bigotry are not so easy to erase. They should know that their efforts are for naught because they see Steve King, Louie Gohmert, and other GOPers cancelling out their efforts to rewrite history every frigging day the same way that I do.

3 Surabaya Stew  Mon, Jul 29, 2013 8:40:59pm

I loved hearing (and seeing) Lyndon Johnson; he really showed a dignified face as the President when he had to. With the exception of comparing the Minutemen to “our soldiers in Vietnam”, he didn’t hit any false notes, and got across the importance of this act clearly and without much BS.

He may have been crude and a jerk behind the scenes, but I’m very proud that LBJ really stood up to the plate for the better ideals of the USA.

4 HappyWarrior  Mon, Jul 29, 2013 9:20:06pm

re: #3 Surabaya Stew

I loved hearing (and seeing) Lyndon Johnson; he really showed a dignified face as the President when he had to. With the exception of comparing the Minutemen to “our soldiers in Vietnam”, he didn’t hit any false notes, and got across the importance of this act clearly and without much BS.

He may have been crude and a jerk behind the scenes, but I’m very proud that LBJ really stood up to the plate for the better ideals of the USA.

For how he as a southerner stood up for civil rights, that alone makes me like and respect Lyndon Baines Johnson. He did more for civil rights than any president not named Lincoln if you ask me.

5 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jul 30, 2013 3:01:39am

LBJ is a conundrum. I think he tried to do the best he could while struggling with his own issues in an era in which mental health treatment was taboo.

I remember one quote from Robert Caro’s series on LBJ, paraphrased: “Politics asks a lot of you.” I think it shows he was a man of many layers. He hated injustice having endured it himself.

“Only Nixon could go go China, Only LBJ could pass the CRA”

—unknown.

6 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jul 30, 2013 3:27:15am

My take is that much of the current right wing in the States is a perfect and extreme example of my observation that human beings prefer mythology to history.

History, as John Ralston Saul noted, “is about an unlimited movement, not a limited dialectic.” History is not meant to ‘prove’ anything.

But the wingnuts know history interferes with their mythology. So they deny it and blindly mouth their mythology instead.


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