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1 majii  Mon, Sep 2, 2013 4:14:02pm

Just the idea that one should be stopped and frisked for being in certain high crime areas is preposterous, imo. It’s like saying that one is guilty until proven innocent. Law enforcement would apologize for being suspicious of Donald Trump if they stopped and questioned him while he was in a high crime area, but they detained Johnson, who was prosecuted and convicted when he wasn’t committing a crime. This is why I oppose stop and frisk laws. Bloomberg likes them because he knows that if he’s ever stopped, he won’t be frisked and he will receive an immediate apology followed by all kinds of obsequious behavior. Whether many Americans believe it or not, minorities are not only questioned and subject to being frisked if they’re in high crime areas but if they are in upscale neighborhoods where the neighbors and law enforcement feel they don’t belong. Because the likelihood of stop and frisk happening to Bloomberg and Kelly is very small, they see no problem with subjecting others to live like this.

2 cinesimon  Mon, Sep 2, 2013 4:59:09pm

Indeed. And their childish fear-mongering - ‘if Stop and Frisk is ended, murder and mugging rates will increase’ - is outright nonsense. It’s proven beyond any doubt that policing does not prevent crime on any meaningful level. It’s the ambulance at the bottom o the cliff. Preventative measures such as increased community ties, employment, free, proper child care for working parents, decent healthcare - especially preventative - etc etc - all contributes massively. And is far, far cheaper than heavy policng. The police behaving like they do toward innocent citizens only tears up communities, increases distrust toward police and within the community. They’re making things worse.
But, people like Bloomberg and Kelly are all about ensuring they’re not seen as commies, and that they have a firm hand on crime. Which means, they are more than happy to throw money away. To fund massively ineffective but scary and tough-looking policing - instead of building communities and helping the poor help themselves. Nope! Sounds too much like ‘socialist’ Europe. Sweden! Shock horror! Can’t have happy communities: those nasty evil societies whose priorities are happy healthy families. Lower crime, of course - and a much cheaper method than heavy policing and targeting the poor and minorities. But COMMUNISM!

It’s about ideology and politics for these sociopaths - the safety of communities is merely a crutch to lean their authoritarian, racist policies on.


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