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1 BongCrodny  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 11:34:53am

There’s an awful lot of craptacular stuff in DC Comics’ “The New 52” lineup, but Batwoman was definitely one of the good ones.

2 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 11:51:55am

re: #1 BongCrodny

Comics are a dudebros paradise right now. I follow a number of feminists on Tumblr, and the horsecrap I see and hear about is ridiculous.

3 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 11:54:09am

re: #2 ProTARDISLiberal

Many of these same dudebros are whining about Doctor Who being a more romantic show. they want the show to be all about the Doctor and Technology.

I get the feeling that most of these dudebros are creepy shut-ins.

4 Jayleia  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 12:34:40pm

re: #3 ProTARDISLiberal

Hey, I slightly resemble that remark about creepy shut-ins!

But I’m one of those weirdos that actually likes the way they handled the River Song romance *hurriedly puts on fireproof suit* …and am just delighted at every turn by Clara.

EDIT: Oh, and totally not a dudebro.

5 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 12:39:46pm

re: #4 Jayleia

I differ on River Song. While an interesting character, the relationship came off as forced (Though an assassin falling in love with their target is interesting.)

The Doctor and Clara though are touching. Anyone volunteer for an experiment? Watch Part 2 of Series 7, and take a drink every time the Doctor and Clara touch each other unnecessarily, or in an overly affectionate manner.

Not a huge fan of Rose, and I don’t like the previous showrunner, Davies. Though, he was still an improvement over Jonathan Nathan Turner.

6 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:23:11pm

And DC just compounded their error in Misogyny.

DC Comics Holding Open Talent Search To Draw Harley Quinn Naked

Kragar, your article needs updating.

7 Jayleia  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:23:15pm

re: #5 ProTARDISLiberal

It WAS forced, if you go mostly by what’s seen in the show.

But for me, it helped make them MY Doctor and MY River…because I can create endless stories for myself about what happened in the in-between times…

8 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:26:51pm

re: #7 Jayleia

I go with a show, don’t tell philosophy for media. You have to show them falling in love.

And the characters have to be near-equal. Not an issue for River, but Rose is…not all that bright.

9 hartly  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 5:58:54am

#3 Pro Tardis Liberal - Oh crap, we had to go there didn’t we. I don’t want the series to be just about the Dr and technology - I’d actually like it if it were a lot less about the Dr. Under Tennant it officially became a show about the Dr rather than one in which he merely stars. I would like it to stop being so much about romance because frankly TV romance is boring unless there’s a life or death edge to it, or unless your significant other is turning into a monster or possessed or something, or unless its just a small bit of background to lend verismilitude to a character. And I don’t want the show to be only about technology - I want it to be about interesting, bizarre characters I’m not likely to meet in real life, not boring folks like the ones I see every day in the supermarket.

I am a creepy shut-in? I don’t know. A dudebro? I’m pretty certain I’m not.

10 hartly  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:04:17am

Oh, and by the way, I answered your question on the “I asked 1000 Americans to Name a British city” thread, so when do I get my cookie, and what kind is it?

11 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:07:43am

re: #9 hartly

Here’s a cookie.

However, I would point out this new formula is working. Doctor Who has unprecendented popularity outside of Britain. It’s a heavyweight in Australia, and quite capable of holding its own against cable shows like Mad Men, and Supernatural (though why there is so much cross-over appeal, I don’t know why. I watched it, and it seemed much less coherent than Doctor Who).

In the end, that will be more important. Cameron will eventually gut the BBC’s funding, and the BBC will need money for quality programming. Doctor Who (and a few others) will bring in needed money.

And, Doctor Who is a show with lots of life or death situations, so the romance does work. As long as 2 rules are followed:

a) The romantic prospect is able to keep up with and challenge the Doctor
b) We are shown how the 2 people fell for one another. That is why romance in Doctor Who has been wonky. Davies was a bad writer, with Rose being one of the weakest companions in the shows history, while Moffat got so tied up in his masterplan that he forgot to show River and the Doctor falling for one another.

I still prefer Moffat over Davies. After all, he hasn’t turned a woman into a literal sex object. And River, for her flaws, is much more competent than Rose.

And I like seeing people’s reactions to the barking mad insanity of the shit the Doctor does. And I think having Jenny, Vastra, and Strax is a good thing. I just wish they were full-time companions. We have had multiple companions in the past. Have it be The Doctor, Clara, Vastra, Jenny, and Strax.

12 hartly  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:57:18am

Well, I was a little irritated to only get a virtual cookie, but looking back at the name a British city post I see I was actually wrong, so no hard feelings.

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