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1 EiMitch  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:07:53pm

If this was a ban on smoking in places that share ventilation, I’d agree. But walls? What, are they so thin you can breathe right though them?

I agree that this is kinda dumb. I mean, really. They go nothing better to do? Such as helping the homeless?

Or providing better welfare to the poor?

Or getting tougher on banks which wrongfully foreclose on people’s houses?

No? Just going to ban smoking in places that don’t share the same air because “reasons”?

2 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:45:44pm

The Great North American Neurosis strikes again.

We are scared shitless of death. We don’t think about it. We don’t talk about it. We arrange our society so that people don’t die anywhere near us.

Our entertainment is full of death porn and our monsters are all killers.

And smokers as everyone knows have a death wish. They continue indulge in a habit that will kill them. Worse, it’s a habit that is believed to kill everybody else it is exposed to.

So it makes a certain sense that smoking would be banned. The people behind this believe death will not come for them if just the right combination of things are either removed from the world or introduced to it.

So, up next for these loons, banning ‘bad foods’ and making compulsory ‘good foods’. Then exercise will be mandatory along with a fixed BMI, proper muscle tone and required cholesterol levels.

We’ll beat death yet. The bastard! (Although dudebro font would be more appropriate for these people’s thought processes.)

3 ausador  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 2:47:52pm

re: #1 EiMitch

If this was a ban on smoking in places that share ventilation, I’d agree. But walls? What, are they so thin you can breathe right though them?

I agree that this is kinda dumb. I mean, really. They go nothing better to do? Such as helping the homeless?

Or providing better welfare to the poor?

Or getting tougher on banks which wrongfully foreclose on people’s houses?

No? Just going to ban smoking in places that don’t share the same air because “reasons”?

Two doors down from my Aunts sixth floor condo is one owned by her “friend Susan.” (False name alert)

Susan smokes three packs of menthol cigarettes a day even though she was recently diagnosed with tumorous growths in both lungs.

Susan’s condo has a steel door and a glass screen door in front of that and yet you can still smell the stale cigarette smell from 3 feet away from her door (I CAN SMELL IT AND I SMOKE!).

The people who live above and below Susan have spent many hundreds of dollars trying to stop the stink from infiltrating their condos, but to no avail.

Blocking off the dryer vent didn’t work, blocking off the bathroom fan vents didn’t work (all the condos from floor 1 to floor 7 all share the same vertical vent stacks if they are above/below each other (See? They do share ventilation!).

Have you ever been to an apartment or condo where someone has smoked nonstop for a decade or more while keeping the place sealed up and running the A.C?

To get rid of the smell you have to remove all the flooring, draperies, furnishings, and wallboard from scratch and then spray the interior of the wall/ceiling cavities with Kilz or a similar primer/sealant.

The stink of Susan’s sticky stale cigarette film coated condo unit has not only infiltrated and damaged the resale value of her neighbors units it is causing health issues for her upstairs neighbor. (who BTW can no longer use her bathroom fans or run her clothes dryer because the vents are now blocked off in her unit.)

Her upstairs neighbor wanted to know what else she could possibly do to block the smoke and stink. I told her to remove the bottom 4 inches of drywall from one side of every wall in her unit and then caulk every conduit/pipe penetration through the slab from below airtight.

Cigarette smoke/stink does go thru “walls and floors” into neighboring units, just because you have not experienced it personally does not mean it is a figment of those other peoples imaginations.

4 theheat  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 7:00:45pm

Even as a smoker, your aunt’s condo sounds like too much to endure. I feel for the tenants.

5 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 1:50:49am

When smoking first came to England, gentlemen went to special “smoking clubs” where they could enjoy the exotic weed in public in a setting of other like-minded gentlemen.

We have come to take this product for granted, as if it were something we should be consuming all day long every day. Wonder which industry is behind that?

6 docproto48  Sat, Nov 23, 2013 4:38:08am

Why? Because besides penetration of smoke I believe smoking could be banned on the fire risk alone! that is one of the reasons why I would never have a condo and hope I never have to go back to apartment life


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