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1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 4:13:53pm

Did you forget to add the link? I’d like to read more.

To address the point of banning lead ammunition, I’m very involved in Raptor and wildlife protection. Leadshot is really a very serious source of fatal poisoning in not just Bald Eagles, but also in fish as well as other species that feed on fish and other carrion.
It’s a difficult situation to discuss and i wish there was a good solution to satisfy both sides of the debate.

2 Political Atheist  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:34:13pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

My apologies. Link added here and above.

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 5:54:07pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did you forget to add the link? I’d like to read more.

To address the point of banning lead ammunition, I’m very involved in Raptor and wildlife protection. Leadshot is really a very serious source of fatal poisoning in not just Bald Eagles, but also in fish as well as other species that feed on fish and other carrion.
It’s a difficult situation to discuss and i wish there was a good solution to satisfy both sides of the debate.

I am in the process of shifting to copper for hunting ammo and steel or other non-toxic for all shotgun shot. I’ll still be using lead at the practice range and for self/home defense ammunition where economically viable alternatives do not yet exist. Once those alternatives come on line - and we can be certain given the money at stake all of them are looking for alternatives - I’ll switch those uses as well.

4 Political Atheist  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 6:51:08pm

William-& Backwood-Well spoken.
I should point out that shooting ranges recapture the lead sooner or later. And I agree with changing the shot metal. I would think that hunting bullets can change.

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:29:22pm

re: #4 Political Atheist

William-& Backwood-Well spoken.
I should point out that shooting ranges recapture the lead sooner or later. And I agree with changing the shot metal. I would think that hunting bullets can change.

That’s why I am less concerned - it’s still real but less - about the practice ammo.

Now if you reload, there is no excuse for not using Barnes or other pure copper projectiles for hunting ammo. So few rounds a year are expended that the increased cost per is a wash.

6 ausador  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 8:31:52pm

Lies, all lies, we know the Federal regulatory agencies are simply making them say that. Everyone who isn’t a MSM sheeple knows that the Federal Government has ordered eleventy bajillion rounds of ammo all at once on purpose to make it scarce on the civilian market!

That is why every time any supplier has a case or two for sale I order it all and then backorder more, just like all my buddies do!

Sure I already have about 45,000 rounds of ammo and am still buying more every chance I get, but that is only because I don’t know when the Obama administration is going to suddenly and illegally block all non-government ammunition sales!

Can you believe that there are still idiots out there that think people like me buying tens of thousands of rounds at a time are the ones causing the ammo shortage? Huh…stupid sheep, that is what they are…

/ sigh…

7 Ace-o-aces  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 10:32:34pm
Our facilities operate 24-hours a day. We are continually making process improvements to increase our efficiency and investing in capital and personnel where we have sustained demand. We are bringing additional capacity online again this year.

Wait, I thought Obama was destroying the gun industry.

8 ausador  Tue, Dec 3, 2013 10:51:47pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

Wait, I thought Obama was destroying the gun industry.

It’s a clever Socialist trap, typical of Obama’s cunning. He will destroy the gun and ammo manufacturing industry simply through his presence in office as President. The truly cunning part is that in January of 2017 some white person will probably be sworn in as our next President!

With a white person in office and all the rednecks already sitting on stockpiles of guns and ammunition that they probably could not use up in the remainder of their lifetimes sales of both will drop to less than a 10th of the current volume. After eight years of ever increasing demand while a “negro” “wrongly” held the office of President this drop will be catastrophic to the gun industry.

Millions have been spent on increasing capacity and adding the ability to run with three shifts. Without adequate demand that enables these changes to continue to be paid for the gun and ammo manufacturers will all go BANKRUPT!!!

/// (I wish)

9 BusyMonster  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 8:45:14am

Isn’t there a tulip panic these fuckwits can go ruin their finances with?

10 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 9:18:07am

re: #9 BusyMonster

Hah!

damninteresting.com

11 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:36:15pm

I was tired last night when I wrote my comment and knew I was forgetting something.
The thing about the leadshot poisoning wildlife is mostly wildfowl hunters (ducks, geese, etc) that’s the biggest problem. The leadshot goes into the lake/river/waterway, settles down and then creates the bigger environmental problem.
I am by no means an expert on this, but logically I would think that deer/elk/large mammal hunting wouldn’t result in a higher risk overall, but I could be wrong about that.
Most of the hunters I know haven’t used leadshot for quite some time. We personally haven’t bought anything with lead for years.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:38:31pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

Wait, I thought Obama was destroying the gun industry.

worst dictator ever…


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