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1 BusyMonster  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 6:05:32am
If cyclists get killed, “It’s their own fault.”

The fucking Cult of Fucking Personal Responsibility, showing once again they have no concept of what that means.

2 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 7:23:20am

The GOP opposes any and all efforts to reduce the use of fossil fuels because the GOP is bought and paid for by the Kochs and the rest of Big Energy. So bicycles have to be included in the bizarre paranoid wingnut belief system.

3 garzooma  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 7:47:29am

I guess William F. Buckley, who proposed bike lanes in NYC during his Mayoral campaign, wouldn’t be considered conservative.

4 Skip Intro  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 7:54:41am

If a vehicle doesn’t belch out tons of CO2 per mile while burning a quart of oil every 100 miles and gets more than 8 miles to the gallon, conservatives are against it.

5 erik_t  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 9:16:31am
Seriously. As Rob Ford put it, “Roads belong to cars, busses and trucks.” If cyclists get killed, “It’s their own fault.”

Busses? Like, ride with the little people? Have a seat next to a possible 47%er? Shared transportation?

WHAT A GODDAMNED FUCKING RINO.

6 mechanic  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 9:37:53am

Look Out, Look Out, it’s an Obamacycle. Socialist plot alert. Bicycles are a scheme to take away our guns and freedums and dingos. And babies.

7 Decatur Deb  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 9:43:43am

Here’s one they’d like:

militarybikes.com

8 sagehen  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 9:45:59am

Imagine how much parking NYC would need if we didn’t have bikes and buses and subways and cabs…

9 sauceruney  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 10:12:27am

re: #1 BusyMonster

It’s so simple, though. If you’re riding your bicycle on a road made for their car or truck, they’re not personally responsible for anything that happens to you!

I’m sitting at IAH waiting on a connecting flight. I think the Texas is affecting my brain…

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 10:38:08am

I’m an avid cyclist, but I rarely ride on the roads because of how dangerous it is. I once got stopped by a cop for illegally riding on a sidewalk and I told him: “If you’re going to give me a ticket, give me a ticket. I’d rather pay a few dollars and stay alive than follow the law and get killed.”

I didn’t get a ticket, just a warning.

11 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 10:39:47am

What, bicycle’s don’t use enough fossil fuels?

12 thecommodore  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 10:59:57am

Public transportation is another wingnut enemy.

IT’S SOSHiL ENJINEARING!1!1!1!1!

13 thecommodore  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:01:24am

re: #6 mechanic

Look Out, Look Out, it’s an Obamacycle. Socialist plot alert. Bicycles are a scheme to take away our guns and freedums and dingos. And babies.

IF OBAMA GETS HIS WAY WE’LL ALL BE RIDING GIRL’S BIKES LIKE HE DOES PART OF HIS SECRET PLOT TO TURN OUR KIDS GAY!!!!!!11TY

14 rosiee  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:09:05am

Ford has actually built bicycle paths and dedicated lanes all across the city. That is a quote taken out of context. And you’ve obviously never dealt with the thuggish bikes here in Toronto who swerve in and out of traffic and if you as much as give them the finger or holler they will kick y our car or worse, and all their bicycle buds will testify that you hit them with your car. Honestly inner city bike culture is one of the most militant of the “progressive” bunch of do gooders.

15 rosiee  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:12:02am

Have you bunch ever cycled in leftist Europe? Those damn French trucks would shoot past me and my girlfriend as we trekked across southern France so fast I felt the soundwave pop agaisnt my ear. And, no bike lanes to speak of. The Nederlands are of course another story ^^

16 docproto48  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:29:11am

Interesting, my ex-wife who watched the 700 club and Rush Limb every night on TV and was anti abortion once saw the local bicycle club on the road and said to me a former cat II bicycle racer that bicycles shouldn’t be on the road. Where should they ride? In their own yard! Until I showed her the rules of the road she didn’t believe bicycles had the same right to the road as cars.
Also we are both MDs and she told me she didn’t think she should have to make her office accessible if she didn’t want to see patients with disabilities
this to me a doctor specializing in Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation. I also have a significant degree of paralysis… notice I said she is my ex wife.

17 Flounder  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:38:42am

Yes, please start riding your bikes down the interstates.

18 wrenchwench  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 11:41:47am

re: #17 Flounder

Yes, please start riding your bikes down the interstates.

Say what?

19 jogiff  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 2:54:29pm

I don’t understand what it is about a car that makes some people feel so goddamned entitled. If I was a car you wouldn’t have a problem with waiting behind me at an intersection. But because I’m a bike you apparently think it’s OK to push me into the traffic. Apparently two seconds of your time is worth more than my life.

20 GeneJockey  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 3:03:07pm

re: #19 jogiff

I don’t understand what it is about a car that makes some people feel so goddamned entitled. If I was a car you wouldn’t have a problem with waiting behind me at an intersection. But because I’m a bike you apparently think it’s OK to push me into the traffic. Apparently two seconds of your time is worth more than my life.

The belief that the roads were made for them, and that their taxes pay for the roads so they shouldn’t have to put up with bicycles on them.

The thing is, the reason we tax motor vehicles is that they damage roads in direct proportion to their mass. Bicycles with riders weigh less than 1/10 what the average car weighs, so the damage they do is negligible. Further, the gas taxes don’t pay for all the work that goes into road building and maintenance, which means that EVERY taxpayer pays for the roads.

21 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 4:21:27pm

re: #17 Flounder

Yes, please start riding your bikes down the interstates.

Actually when I lived in Washington State, it was legal to ride along the shoulder of the interstate between the northern edge of Olympia, and the southern edge of Tacoma area. It’s about a 12 mile stretch, and it was no joy. Even all the way over on the far edge of the shoulder you got hammered by the wind off the trucks, and the farther you got from the traffic lane the more debris like tiny pieces of wire from blown tires you’d find.

The reason was that the only other route would be 40 miles, so they made it legal to get on at the last possible exit, and off at the first possible one. I did it a few times, but hated it with a passion.

RBS

22 palomino  Mon, Dec 16, 2013 5:59:51pm

re: #14 rosiee

Ford has actually built bicycle paths and dedicated lanes all across the city. That is a quote taken out of context. And you’ve obviously never dealt with the thuggish bikes here in Toronto who swerve in and out of traffic and if you as much as give them the finger or holler they will kick y our car or worse, and all their bicycle buds will testify that you hit them with your car. Honestly inner city bike culture is one of the most militant of the “progressive” bunch of do gooders.

You’re complaining about the “thuggish” nature of Toronto? Have you ever been to the US? And I’m so sorry you have to be inconvenienced a bit when you drive. Welcome to the entire world of driving a car. Big fucking deal.

Your rhetoric about leftists and do-gooders is about 50 years out of date. You sound like you’re channeling a combo of Nixon, McCarthy and Archie Bunker. Probably all heroes in your book.

23 Tim TeaBro  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 7:54:40am

re: #18 wrenchwench

Say what?

Typical passive aggressive rage directed at others. My disdain is only outmatched by my pity.

No concept of ‘Share the Road.’ Because it’s obviously communist.

24 wrenchwench  Tue, Dec 17, 2013 8:45:17am

In many places it is legal to ride on the interstates. As RBS described above, it’s not pleasant but it might be the only choice within a half a day’s ride. In New Mexico and in Oregon, it’s legal except in urban areas.

By law, cyclists have the same rights and responsibilities on the road as all other users. It is legal for a locality to ban them from certain streets. One town in Colorado tried to ban them from the whole town, and was shot down by the state Supreme Court.

The safest way to ride with the rest of traffic is to be in the lane where you can be seen, not in the gutter or all the way to the right. Most state laws say ‘ride as far to the right as practicable’. The word practicable is subject to interpretation. To me it means use the right lane unless I’m turning left.

I yield the lane to vehicles approaching behind me when I see that they have seen me (by looking in my mirror and seeing them move left).

Cyclist hate is nothing new. Motorist Superiority Complex is as old as automobiles. Cyclists being told to get off the road is older. They used to scare the horses.

Cyclist Inferiority Complex might be newer. It afflicts those who think that cyclists should ride in the gutter for fear of offending motorists by causing them to slow down. Cyclist Inferiority Complex is more dangerous to me as a cyclist than Motorist Superiority Complex is. The motorists do not have law on their side, but the bicycle advocates who are pushing bike lanes all over the country are changing expectations of cyclists with or without changing laws.

Bike lanes may be the way to go in NYC or DC, but in most places they make cycling more dangerous by shunting cyclists over to the right too far. Some make one ride where a car door opening would take a cyclist out.

The most dangerous part of cycling is not being hit by an overtaking vehicle, it is being hit by a vehicle turning left in front of or right on top of a cyclist. Bike lanes increase this hazard, while doing little to decrease the overtaking hazard (when has a paint stripe ever deflected a distracted driver?)

The motivation of the bike lane pushers seems to be car-hate. They want everyone to get out of their car and ride a bike. They are pushing bike lanes to give novices the feeling that they are safe, because the number one reason non-cyclists give for not riding is that they feel unsafe. They are not advocates for cyclists, they are advocates for bicycles.

Bike lane pushers make themselves an enemy to car users, creating conflict that serves no purpose, or at least serves no cyclist. All I want is a wide right lane, and the continuing right to use whatever part of the road I think is safest at the time.


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