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1 Dark_Falcon  Apr 17, 2014 6:43:39pm

The “assault knives” comment was a joke and then other tweet was likely hostile to any sort of ban as well. What those comments were intended to do was make clear that gun control does NOT prevent acts of mass murder. If Alberta wants less knife crime, it should find a way to adopt Concealed Carry (CCW).

2 Chrysicat  Apr 17, 2014 9:15:38pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

The “assault knives” comment was a joke and then other tweet was likely hostile to any sort of ban as well. What those comments were intended to do was make clear that gun control does NOT prevent acts of mass murder. If Alberta wants less knife crime, it should find a way to adopt Concealed Carry (CCW).

Now you’re making yourself into a parody of conservatism. The key is to keep the nuts from getting into houses, not this ‘an armed society is a polite society’ crap.

3 b_sharp  Apr 18, 2014 4:17:29pm

The Regina stabbing was likely a copy of or triggered by the Calgary stabbing.

4 b_sharp  Apr 18, 2014 4:22:18pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

The “assault knives” comment was a joke and then other tweet was likely hostile to any sort of ban as well. What those comments were intended to do was make clear that gun control does NOT prevent acts of mass murder. If Alberta wants less knife crime, it should find a way to adopt Concealed Carry (CCW).

You have no idea how we think.

Gun control doesn’t stop mass murder, nobody claims it does. It does reduce the number of opportunities for mass murder.

We have concealed carry here. Making it more available will only change the weapon of choice for people intent on harming others and it will increase the number of deaths.

5 uncah91  Apr 20, 2014 7:22:56am

I’m probably late to this party, but … IMHO, killings like these are why the common rhetoric after mass killings almost always serves us poorly. “Never again” are words I would never again like to hear.

Banning hand guns or “assault rifles” will not prevent mass killings from occurring. There are far too many documented cases of mass killings using other means to believe this.

However, if someone has access to a firearm it makes it easier for them to commit killings en masse. On balance, access to firearms for the disturbed individual has to increase probability of all the negative outcomes. It increases the likelihood of a successful suicide, increases the number of disturbed individuals that can carry out a mass killing, and increases the number of deaths in a mass shooting event.

For proponents of CCW as a response, I’d submit that prevalence of CCW merely increases the possibility that an event like this ends at the hand of a CCW holder. The disturbed individual won’t be deterred by the thought that they mak be killed by a CCW, any more than they are deterred by the knowledge they will eventually be killed by the police. And the number of rounds they can get off before a CCW holder could react means that, even in optimal situations, innocent deaths will occur. Most situations are far less than optimal.

Unfortunately, I don’t know how we could possibly get the nationwide rules or bans in place that could have much effect on the availability of firearms in general. I’d far rather concentrate on reducing magazine capacity and reload rate and even that is a big uphill climb. Everyone having access to high quality mental health care wouldn’t hurt either, but it’s far harder to draw a direct inference on that front.

Concentrating on mass killings is also missing the very large forest for a few extremely large trees. Domestic incidents and suicide are what really dominate the negative outcomes around firearms,

6 gwangung  Apr 20, 2014 2:24:09pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

The “assault knives” comment was a joke and then other tweet was likely hostile to any sort of ban as well. What those comments were intended to do was make clear that gun control does NOT prevent acts of mass murder. If Alberta wants less knife crime, it should find a way to adopt Concealed Carry (CCW).

I thought the argument on gun control was that it didn’t prevent mass murder, but that it makes them fewer in number and fewer in victims.

Hm. I smell straw around here….


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