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1 leftynyc  Jul 30, 2014 1:02:49pm

Great piece. I have to say that being part of LGF has taught me that I’m not the raging liberal I always thought I was (but still get accused of being). I’m moderate left. The internet has made the voices of the hard left and the hard right louder than they really are.

2 Kravmavolley  Jul 30, 2014 1:14:06pm

Yep… I realize that I am very liberal on some issues and sort of conservative on others (though not to any great degree) so overall I would say I am a moderate liberal as well. I am pretty happy with President Obama and I was very happy with President Clinton.

But the one thing I do know is that I have absolutely no plans of voting for Republicans with the party configured as it currently is. There is just zero upside there.

3 klys  Jul 30, 2014 4:29:29pm

re: #2 Kravmavolley

Yep… I realize that I am very liberal on some issues and sort of conservative on others (though not to any great degree) so overall I would say I am a moderate liberal as well. I am pretty happy with President Obama and I was very happy with President Clinton.

But the one thing I do know is that I have absolutely no plans of voting for Republicans with the party configured as it currently is. There is just zero upside there.

I would agree, but sadly when you have a two party system some people decide to vote for the other party when they are dissatisfied with the party in power, even if that is counterproductive to their long-term interests and wellbeing.

4 Kravmavolley  Jul 30, 2014 4:33:17pm

re: #3 klys

I have to agree with you re: the two party system. I wish there were more, I understand that, that would lead to some instability but I would feel much more engaged with Party options.

5 Mets102  Jul 30, 2014 6:54:09pm

re: #4 Kravmavolley

A multiparty system would actually not be the same agent of instability in a presidential system such as ours like it is in a parliamentary system such as Israel’s. That is because we have fixed terms of office and the executive is not dependent upon maintaining the confidence of the legislature to remain in office. Therefore, there would never be the risk of fresh elections if the executive could not carry the day in the legislature.

Currently, the biggest impediment to the establishment of a system with more parties than are currently represented is the fact that we use first-past-the-post for most elections. This encourages the development of two party systems. I don’t know that that is such a bad thing because it usually causes the parties to moderate and play for the center. What is happening now in terms of ideological uniformity being demanded in parties is anomalous, rather than the usual order of things.

6 Archangelus  Jul 30, 2014 7:06:21pm

re: #5 Mets102

A multiparty system would actually not be the same agent of instability in a presidential system such as ours like it is in a parliamentary system such as Israel’s.

Israel had 32 (yes, that’s right) parties running for the past two elections, of which 12 ended up represented in the Knesset. I think it’s safe to say the US won’t be approaching such a level of what amounts IMO to political madness in the near or very distant future..


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