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1 sagehen  Sep 6, 2014 6:13:12pm

California’s stricter-than-average air and water rules may be expensively stricter than other states, may indeed be a reason to locate factories elsewhere… but there’s actual physics and geography reasons why California needs stricter standards than other states.

If some jobs and economic development end up elsewhere as a result… it’s for the best. The cost of environmental regs, or not having them, isn’t just a budget line to the factory in question. There’s also external costs to the people who live within breathing range, the people who live downstream, and that matters too.

2 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 7, 2014 8:47:41am

re: #1 sagehen

My point is to how un necessarily expensive it is to comply. Many of the rules are one size fits all, For example the handling rules for used jewelers rouge & buffing materials are based on liquid in a barrel. Thing is it’s not a liquid, so that’s not the right container. use the “right container” and you get a big fine. Even though the right container is safer. Why are those drums counted as full even if they are not? That’s another trap built right in that serves no purpose but to raise costs, and risks of penalties. Public safety is impaired not enhanced.

3 lostlakehiker  Sep 7, 2014 10:33:50am

re: #1 sagehen

California’s stricter-than-average air and water rules may be expensively stricter than other states, may indeed be a reason to locate factories elsewhere… but there’s actual physics and geography reasons why California needs stricter standards than other states.

If some jobs and economic development end up elsewhere as a result… it’s for the best. The cost of environmental regs, or not having them, isn’t just a budget line to the factory in question. There’s also external costs to the people who live within breathing range, the people who live downstream, and that matters too.

There’s no physical reason why drainage water has to be cleaner than tap water.


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