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1 Rightwingconspirator  Dec 21, 2014 11:55:53am

How do i say this right? Hmmm. I’m agreeing and not at the same time.

“They have created an atmosphere of severe, strong, anti-police hatred in certain communities. For that, they should be ashamed of themselves,” he said.

Fair enough.

Fair enough in the spirit of turnabout is fair play. Disagree on the term “Fair Enough” though. No that was no fair rhetoric by Giuliani by any means. And given my druthers, we would not surrender the point just so we can make the same rhetorical mistakes. Elevate the discussion. +1 for putting this one up.

2 Lumberhead  Dec 21, 2014 12:24:38pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

I don’t think it’s anything more than:

Fair enough in the spirit of turnabout is fair play.

He does go on to say:

Or wait. Maybe we can’t do any of those things. Maybe lots of people support lots of things, and we can’t twist that generalized support into blame for maniacs who decide to take up arms for their own demented reasons. Maybe that’s a better idea after all.

3 The War TARDIS  Dec 21, 2014 1:51:57pm

I would say we should add the victims of Breivik to that number as well. So, another 77 victims of the American right.

4 HappyWarrior  Dec 21, 2014 2:54:28pm

I’m for a little push back too. These people who have actually talked about “second amendment solutions” are the same people who want to blame Obama, Sharpton, and DiBlasio for the actions of the man who killed the two cops in Brooklyn need to have their own rhetoric called out. So sick of hypocritical conservative bullshit. These fuckers actually threatened law enforcement at Bundy’s Ranch but somehow being critical of the officers in the Garner and other cases is somehow inciting violence. Fuck that shit.

5 Dark_Falcon  Dec 22, 2014 4:19:53pm

re: #3 The War TARDIS

You need to read the piece, PLL. Part of the point is that its not fair to blame people for an evil they did not aid. I know I’ve used this example a couple times but it bears repeating: Brevik’s manifesto cited both Naomi Klein and Mark Steyn more than once, and those two writers are very far apart. But neither of them supports or has supported mass murder, and neither of them would ever approve of Brevik’s actions. So instead of blaming them, blame the asshole who actually pulled the trigger.


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