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1 CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2015 11:56:45am

Wow, scary indeed. You were right about the photos though.

2 CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2015 12:10:51pm

BTW, I really like the photo of the freshwater bryozoan lit by the sun. so I went to look for a photo of one in daylight. Ewwww!

3 Great White Snark  Mar 13, 2015 12:15:20pm

re: #1 CuriousLurker

Seeing this with my own eyes as I get into those mountains year after year getting landscape and some macro nature shots. It’s enough to make a native weep sometimes, especially way upslope. I mean damn it’s dry up there.

4 calochortus  Mar 13, 2015 2:40:05pm

Maybe we could quit using the water to grow alfalfa that we export to China? Just a thought.

5 Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2015 3:29:08pm

This is probably one of the most unreported stories in the country, even here in California. We’re still counting on a “miracle March” to bail us out of this, and there isn’t going to be one.

BTW, at my house right now it’s 85 degrees, or 20 degrees above “normal”. It’s been this way for a couple of years now, yet where I live we still have county supervisors who refuse to accept the reality in front of their eyes.

6 Floral Giraffe  Mar 13, 2015 5:35:22pm

re: #4 calochortus

Maybe we could quit using the water to grow alfalfa that we export to China? Just a thought.

And almonds, one of the most wastefull water crops!

7 Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2015 6:22:24pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

And almonds, one of the most wastefull water crops!

I vote for wine grapes, which are sucking the aquifer under Paso Robles dry.

Unfortunately, wine is a big draw here and there’s no way local government is going to do anything that changes that. We’ll be drinking reclaimed urine first.

8 calochortus  Mar 13, 2015 7:03:04pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

I vote for wine grapes, which are sucking the aquifer under Paso Robles dry.

Unfortunately, wine is a big draw here and there’s no way local government is going to do anything that changes that. We’ll be drinking reclaimed urine first.

And rightly so!
Seriously however there are things that can be done with vineyards to make them less water intensive. Some of them are pretty expensive to implement with existing vines, but they could grow grapes that are grafted onto deep, drought resistant rootstocks rather than shallow ones. And so forth.

9 Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2015 8:55:12pm

I really believe that if California cannot find a practical way to desalinate and purify ocean water, vast swaths of the State (and much of the American Southwest) will become an uninhabitable desert in my lifetime (for the record I’m 33).

It will be interesting to see things play out of politically as there are a FUCKton of very powerful and very monied interests both in Southern California and Nevada.

I wonder if long distance piping is an option? Surely if we can build oil pipelines that criss cross the country we could build a water line too? I’m no engineering expert but it at least seems to me it would be theoretically possible.

10 SteveMcGaziBolaGate  Mar 13, 2015 10:16:03pm

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Vast swaths of CA and the American southwest already ARE uninhabitable desert.

11 Dark_Falcon  Mar 14, 2015 6:37:43am

re: #4 calochortus

Maybe we could quit using the water to grow alfalfa that we export to China? Just a thought.

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

And almonds, one of the most wastefull water crops!

Almonds, yes cut those off, but keep the alfalfa. The agriculture products we supply to China help maintain stable food prices over there and they give China a good reason not to create a major crisis. So weird as it seems, alfalfa to China helps keep the peace.

12 calochortus  Mar 14, 2015 8:20:46am

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

Alfalfa keeps food prices stable in China, but almonds don’t? How does that work? Almonds are exported all over the world, but Asia is a huge part of the market.
I’m not sure draining CA dry to export food is a sustainable plan.

13 SoCaroLion  Mar 16, 2015 7:29:22am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s interesting. I know virtually nothing about the process of desalinization and the amount of energy it requires. However, I wonder how much desalinization and water purification it would take to even begin to offset rising sea levels? Is it even quantifiable?


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