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1 The War TARDIS  Apr 24, 2015 8:09:49pm

There is something else as well.

The west has refused to take seriously the purges of Muslims in areas of Europe as the Ottomans withdrew from the area. These were usually also systematic, and in Russian areas, usually involved mass murder. I admit this bit of history is why I hold some antipathy for Russia now, along with the shootdown of Malaysian Air Flight 17, along with the looting of the victims that occurred.

This also happened in Albania, with Serbia and Albania wiping out roughly 1/3 of all Albanians on the planet in the 1910-1913 timeframe. They also lost a huge amount of their territory, including Kosovo. What is especially amusing is the fact that Serbia and Greece still put very aggressive pressure on Albania and Kosovo to treat their minorities in both of those countries very well, something that Serbia and Greece have never done.

This has very real ramifications today.

Clinton said U.S. allies in Europe blocked proposals to adjust or remove the embargo. They justified their opposition on plausible humanitarian grounds, arguing that more arms would only fuel the bloodshed, but privately, said the president, key allies objected that an independent Bosnia would be “unnatural” as the only Muslim nation in Europe. He said they favored the embargo precisely because it locked in Bosnia’s disadvantage. [..] When I expressed shock at such cynicism, reminiscent of the blind-eye diplomacy regarding the plight of Europe’s Jews during World War II, President Clinton only shrugged. He said President François Mitterrand of France had been especially blunt in saying that Bosnia did not belong, and that British officials also spoke of a painful but realistic restoration of Christian Europe. Against Britain and France, he said, German chancellor Helmut Kohl among others had supported moves to reconsider the United Nations arms embargo, failing in part because Germany did not hold a seat on the U.N. Security Council.

There is still a very real impulse in Europe to purge Muslims. At some point, something will happen, and Europe will do something awful. The European states need to come clean, and also admit massive human rights violations against Muslims, especially by the Greeks, the Serbians, and especially the Russians, who I think are the worst persecutor of Muslims in Human History, bar none.

2 The War TARDIS  Apr 24, 2015 8:21:50pm

And, though I may loathe Thatcher otherwise, I do respect her a lot for this:

In August 1992, Thatcher called for NATO to stop the Serbian assault on Gora៭e and Sarajevo to end ethnic cleansing during the Bosnian War. She compared the situation in Bosnia to “the worst excesses of the Nazis”, and warned that there could be a “holocaust”.

3 FemNaziBitch  Apr 25, 2015 3:39:51am

More WWI fallout.

?

4 CuriousLurker  Apr 25, 2015 4:11:41am

re: #1 The War TARDIS

re: #2 The War TARDIS

I don’t understand what it is you think Europe & Russia’s behavior and/or antipathy towards Muslims in their midst has to do with the recognition of Armenian genocide. It would seem to me that if “Christian” Europe is fundamentally hostile towards Muslims, then they’d gladly recognize the mass murder (by Muslims) of fellow Christians right at their doorstep.

Also, you should know by now that if you’re going to quote content that isn’t your own, then you need to provide citations.

5 The War TARDIS  Apr 25, 2015 5:05:52pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

That’s exactly it.

Europe refuses to face up to its treatment of Muslims.

I will source quotes from now on.


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