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Michael McBacon  Dec 19, 2015 • 1:53:44pm

Ah, the Bell Curve. Now there’s a real Shit Sandwich.

CriticalDragon1177  Dec 19, 2015 • 8:44:49pm

re: #1 Michael McBacon

Yeah I know. The Bell Curve nonsense almost always comes up when racist imbeciles try to convince you of the non existent “superiority of the white race.”

Nyet  Dec 20, 2015 • 11:22:18am

In 2011 Chauncey wrote the following:

Thus, while James Earl Jones’ First World, indigenous, black grandmother, may have been bigoted or prejudiced, she was in no way racist—for racism is a particular and unique sin of white people, whatever their class or social location, in modernity and beyond.

… thus exposing himself as a racist. And I don’t need to hear what racists have to say about racism.

SirMixALot  Dec 20, 2015 • 7:35:49pm

Ironically the race that was statistically superior in the Bell Curve was not whites, but Asians. Yet Asians are the actual victims of university quota systems. Universities limit the number of Asians enrolled which helps white applicants.

Nyet  Dec 20, 2015 • 11:11:18pm

Downding without any reason? How unexpected from you. /

CriticalDragon1177  Dec 21, 2015 • 9:32:42am

re: #5 Nyet

I disagree with his definition of racism, but I don’t think his statement shows that Chauncey is a racist. He was saying that non whites can be bigots after all, even if he doesn’t think they could be racists given how he defines the term.

Some define racism as “Prejudice plus power.”

Prejudice plus power

While by that definition, at one point blacks couldn’t have been racists within the United States, however, today that may not be true, since non whites do have more power than they used to. I will admit its a flawed definition, since looking down on someone because of their “race” is inherently racist, I don’t think you’ve given me a compelling argument that Chauncey would fit my definition of a racist.

Nyet  Dec 21, 2015 • 2:45:33pm

re: #6 CriticalDragon1177

His definition is not “prejudice plus power”. That definition, however flawed it is (and oh, is it), still allows for people of other races and ethnicities to be racist - in other countries where the power is not in the hands of white majorities. Moreover, when one takes local power into account, minorities can certainly be racist acc. to that definition even in the majority-white countries.

What Chauncey does is worse. He tailors his definition so that racism is the “unique sin of the white people” in the whole world. He doesn’t limit it to the US. And if you don’t believe that he refers to the whole world (vis a vis the “white” West), I can supply his comments from DailyKos, where the article comes from. His logic is that since Europeans introduced the concept of race, the “racial” dynamics are unique to the relationship between whites and non-whites. And he hasn’t changed his mind in the years that have passed, as this recent tweet shows:

When one tailors one’s definition of racism to scapegoat a whole racial/ethnic group, one is a racist.

CriticalDragon1177  Dec 21, 2015 • 9:08:03pm

re: #7 Nyet

Sorry I had no idea.

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