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ObserverArt  Apr 1, 2018 • 8:13:35am

A fitting tribute and remembrance of your father Anymouse. I imagine it still stings yet today.

I had three older brothers in the military, two served during the Vietnam war. I remember the sadness my mother had every single time one of them had to go back after being home on leave. I remember the worry that one of them would be shipped off to Vietnam but thankfully for our family it never happened.

Sadly though, I do know people that had the military staff car arrive and how it forever changed their families.

I still believe war is the worst of human interaction and I wonder how it could ever actually make us human when it is in my opinion so animalistic an endeavor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 1, 2018 • 3:59:28pm

re: #1 ObserverArt

Thank you.

Warfare is horrible. That said, in our country it is not the military that starts or ends wars, it is politicians.

The gutting under the present administration of the State Department is horrific: The Department of Defense itself says it relies on the Department of State’s diplomacy to keep us out of wars or bring them to a settlement.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2018 • 6:07:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2018 • 6:42:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:19:21pm

I received a message over at Daily Kos, concerning my father’s death in 1968.

Posted below with the poster’s name redacted:

On April 1st 1968 We (crew 3 VP-19) flew out of Subic Bay Philippines through a hurricane into clear air and then into a deck of clouds that turned out of be smoke from our destination Vietnam. We dropped our four engine turbo prop P-3 Orion into Da Nang in steep dive to avoid ground fire pulling up just above the craters at the end of the runway. Our mission we were told was to deliver a dog to his master, a general who stepped forward and petted the pooch a few times and then ordered us to fly the dog on to U-Topau Thailand for further “training”.

We took off and flew across the the rest of Vietnam which seemed to be on fire everywhere two roads crossed. If I remember right the Tet offensive had not yet ground to a total halt. We flew a portion of Laos and landed at U-Topau which was packed with U.S. planes of all description. One plane was P-3 just like ours with the markings of VP-26.

We waved at the crew across the tarmac and delivered the dog. Looking back, I suspect it was no coincidence that we both took off within minutes of each other and both of us flew south along the coast of “neutral” Cambodia. I don’t know where the decision was made but we were assigned to fly at altitude above a cloud deck that blocked our view of your father’s plane below whose job it was to get down on the deck and seek out infiltration craft working their way south through Cambodia and into the Mekong Delta.

I suspect our job was to trace their route and confuse what ever radar the enemy had at hand. Both planes were designed for long range shipping surveillance and sub chasing. We had an endurance of 24 hours and we were essentially flying gas tanks, not an ideal platform with which to engage in close order combat at low altitude.

We soon got a radio message from the plane below us that they had taken fire and were going down aflame. There were no survivors and we were ordered to proceed to our destination.

Today I found your blog and shed a few tears from so long ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:20:46pm

On April 1st 1968 We (crew 3 VP-19) flew out of Subic Bay Philippines through a hurricane into clear air and then into a deck of clouds that turned out of be smoke from our destination Vietnam. We dropped our four engine turbo prop P-3 Orion into Da Nang in steep dive to avoid ground fire pulling up just above the craters at the end of the runway. Our mission we were told was to deliver a dog to his master, a general who stepped forward and petted the pooch a few times and then ordered us to fly the dog on to U-Topau Thailand for further “training”.

We took off and flew across the the rest of Vietnam which seemed to be on fire everywhere two roads crossed. If I remember right the Tet offensive had not yet ground to a total halt. We flew a portion of Laos and landed at U-Topau which was packed with U.S. planes of all description. One plane was P-3 just like ours with the markings of VP-26.

We waved at the crew across the tarmac and delivered the dog. Looking back, I suspect it was no coincidence that we both took off within minutes of each other and both of us flew south along the coast of “neutral” Cambodia. I don’t know where the decision was made but we were assigned to fly at altitude above a cloud deck that blocked our view of your father’s plane below whose job it was to get down on the deck and seek out infiltration craft working their way south through Cambodia and into the Mekong Delta.

I suspect our job was to trace their route and confuse what ever radar the enemy had at hand. Both planes were designed for long range shipping surveillance and sub chasing. We had an endurance of 24 hours and we were essentially flying gas tanks, not an ideal platform with which to engage in close order combat at low altitude.

We soon got a radio message from the plane below us that they had taken fire and were going down aflame. There were no survivors and we were ordered to proceed to our destination.

Today I found your blog and shed a few tears from so long ago.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:21:16pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:30:31pm

My uncle served in this war. To this day, there is a side of him which no one has yet to draw out. I can well understand why. He’s seen the worst of humanity on both sides; serving in the US Army in Vietnam, and serving in the Indiana State Police once he got home. The only problem (for him) is, on both sides, the worst of humanity has been American citizens.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:34:04pm

re: #8 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My uncle served in this war. To this day, there is a side of him which no one has yet to draw out. I can well understand why. He’s seen the worst of humanity on both sides; serving in the US Army in Vietnam, and serving in the Indiana State Police once he got home. The only problem (for him) is, on both sides, the worst of humanity has been American citizens.

Our former village board chariman also served in the Vietnam War. He does not speak of it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:51:05pm

Wow, that is really amazing he found his way to tell you the story. Small world in a time warp. Stay strong ‘mouse. I am sure that was a bit unsettling even after all this time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 2, 2018 • 7:57:51pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

Wow, that is really amazing he found his way to tell you the story. Small world in a time warp. Stay strong ‘mouse. I am sure that was a bit unsettling even after all this time.

He found it from a previous story I posted to Kos on my family being awarded the Gold Star Family Lapel Button in a public ceremony forty-five years late.


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