re: #112 Obdicut

They don’t. Refugees don’t cross the border illegally, they apply for asylum. They are generally allowed freedom of movement during that application. They are not giving a visa.

They call it a Refugee/Asylum Visa.

Your argument about the Arizona bill could not have been disproven more thoroughly.
The people subject to it do not have to have committed a crime.
A stop does not have to include the commission of a crime.
Undocumented aliens can have driver’s licenses.

A lawful stop would then need to lead to the reasonable part. Not the other way around. Again for further qualification, first there has to be a lawful STOP, DETENTION OR ARREST made IN THE ENFORCEMENT OF ANY OTHER LAW. Just like the federal law.

If they had a DL, then they would not be subject to the law, as there would be no reasonable suspicion that the person is an alien who AND is unlawfully present in the United States.

Most illegal aliens don’t. You can only have an international DL for as long as your home DL is good. AND and illegal would not go back to renew their DL when it expires. AND they would still have to have legal residence where they have the original DL. If they are residing illegally in the USA, then they would not have a legal DL back home.