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Robert Stacy McCain and the Fall of the Conservative Movement

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Guanxi8810/15/2009 8:19:04 am PDT

re: #117 SeaMonkey

Yes, the Che image is prevalent in Latino communities. Let’s not pretend everything is hunky-dory re: US-Latin American relations. There is a reason for this anger. Very few people except some fringe guerrillas thousand of miles south of Texas are being killed for it.

The Weathermen were in jail or on the lam for twenty years. I’m not interested in defending them, but continually railing them against them is a straw man argument.

And to use the word “genocide” re: Israel relating to US liberals — please. This is insanely hyperbolic.

The original point was that the current right is trading more in hate, specifically in this case, racism, than the current left. Your torrent of outrage does nothing to contradict this.

Oh! The Che iconography is a Latino phenomenon; funny, I hadn’t seen it that way, noticing instead the popularity of it among the anti-war progressives, but, just as you say.

The Weather Underground leadership don’t need you to defend them - they’ve got tenure, speaking engagements, and a good friend in a very high place. They’ll do just fine without your support, even as they’ll get along just fine without mine. As to their being strawmen - well, if they didn’t exist, you might have a point, but they do, and so you don’t.

As for the torrent of hatred from the right, my original post pointed out the greater likelihood of violence from the right these days. They’re outta power, after all, and a radical out of power can be a spiteful POS. (See the Weather Strawmen, above)

The anti-war left ARE supporting genocide against Israel; if the anti-war left back the Palestinians (and clearly, they do), whose leadership has as their stated goal the destruction of Israel, and whose religious leadership have the genocide of the Jews as an element of their eschatology to be effected by any and all means available, then yeah, that behavior is objectively in support of genocide. The shrieking outrage with which the international anti-war left greeted the IDF operations in Gaza proved them to be on the side of Hamas.

We can expect a similar reaction should Iran or some other regional enemy decide to burn Tel Aviv to ashes. I guaran-damn-tee you that the outrage and horror on the left will be for the poor Iranians killed in the counter-strike.

I hope I never have the opportunity to say “I told you so.”