re: #78 LudwigVanQuixote

This I agree with you on. China and India have already decided not to comply with anything much at all.

The measures that matter:
1. are switching to 4th gen nuclear
2. Solar and wind as supplements.
3. Improving the power distribution net.
4. Deploying the newest gen batteries and switching to electric vehicles.
5. Carrot and stick economically with India and China. We do not need to buy their stuff unless they go more green. We are the one’s funding their pollution ultimately.

China and India are going to be climate deal-breakers with their IMBY position.
Interesting how India just yesterday publicly announced that they have consolidated their negotiating position with China, which goes something like: AGW and pollution are the West’s fault, the West must pay, the East gets to pollute and burn as much carbon as it wants.
We are, I fear, on the verge of an economic shakedown of biblical proportions.