re: #134 EdDantes

Everyone, even creationists admit mutations exist. And after bacteria or fruit flies are bathed in radiation what new, viable species have they evolved into?

This is an incoherent question. Whatever mutation they’ve picked up, if it’s not selected against, would define their new ‘species’. If you’re looking for such an actual speciation event, it was observed here.

Dobzhansky, Th., and O. Pavlovsky, 1971. “An experimentally created incipient species of Drosophila”, Nature 23:289-292.

These species were created without any forcing of mutation, just by letting them breed for several generations.

So you accept evolution, in that you accept selection for positive mutations, and you accept that mutations occur de novo. I’ve just shown you an actual speciation event. What do you have left in your denier’s arsenal?