re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The underlying mechanism is that there is an author who creates it. That is the literal truth, and it is also the narrative truth in the universe.

And from the vantage point of the “Marvel Universe”, who created the creator? Do you lack the imagination to comprehend that hypothetical characters could have the imagination to wonder such things? After all, that’s the crux of the discussion, here.

He absolutely can’t. Not sure why you’re asking this.

You haven’t in the least shown any new questions opened. What I am saying is that if you were in the Marvel universe, if you saw physical laws changing, often in concert with some narrative, the logical, skeptical assumption would be that you were in a reality that was controlled by some powerful being or beings who could affect that reality. It would not be rational to think that they were all engineered robots.

Okay, I’ll try to slow down and explain this again. It’s no more or less rational for a denizen of the Marvel universe to think their supernatural beings are artificial robots than to think “Allah sent them”. Both are irrational, because both are unlikely to be true. Therefore, the default position is “I don’t know wtf the Jinn are.” Got it?

So be clear to me - is an orderly universe evidence for “intelligent design”, or is a disorderly universe evidence for “intelligent design”? You can’t have it both ways.

I didn’t say an evidence of a God.

Again, I really have to ask, do you get that the Marvel universe really is a created thing, that it is literally designed by humans?

No, I don’t think comic book universes are “real”. Yes, I realize humans write Marvel Comics - do I HAVE to explain that? I thought the point was that we were discussing it as if it was hypothetically real.