re: #159 dentate

First, what are you calling “mainstream” Judaism, and what rabbis did you ask? No doubt you can find ultra-orthodox literalists in every religion. Such rabbis do not necessarily reflect the 3000 year tradition or majority understanding of Judaism. For at least the last 2000 of those years, non-literal interpretation of the Torah has been a mainstay of rabbinic Judaism, though the old saying “two Jews, three opinions” has always been the case. You need to directly reference your source when you make a statement like this. Also, please look up the definitions of “proscribe” and “belie”

I spoke to mainstream Modern Orthos, who are not ultra-ortho, and I know the difference.

Ultra-Orthos are young earthers. Modern Orthodox believe in intelligent design, but an old earth which is numerous billions of years old. This is at least based off the numerous people I have spoken to, and I am extremely vocal and spoke to a plethora of people on the subject.