re: #161 Buck

Really? Jewish immigration is an “impediment to Palestinian freedom”? I seriously do not see how.

If you cannot see how mass immigration that reverses the demographic majorities of a region impedes the freedom of those that end up in the minority, I cannot help you.

The 1948 partition, which the Jews agreed to, but the Arabs answered with war is a way that Israel is an “impediment to Palestinian freedom”?

Again, that makes no sense to me what so ever.

And Again, if it doesn’t I cant help you. I do dispute that ISrael accepted partition and Palestinians did not. It does not change the fact that Partition which created the state of Israel impeded arab freedom in the region, if you only assume it did so within Israel that is fine.

In the past Israel have uprooted Jews from land they traded for peace. there is no reason to think that would not happen again IF they had anyone to negotiate with.

Are you aware that the land that the settlements are being built on is land that was transferred legally to the Jews from the Ottoman Empire in 1920?

YES
Are you aware that the majority of that land (transferred legally to the Jews from the Ottoman Empire in 1920) was already illegally taken away and given to the Arabs? That huge section of land, stolen from the Jews, became Jordan.

YES
Are you aware that the remaining territories, including Judea, Samaria and Gaza are in fact Legal Title transferred and was ratified by the Allied Powers at the San Remo conference (1922) and adopted by the US through the Anglo-American Convention (1924) and became a binding international commitment to the Jewish people, passed by the League of Nations and accepted by the United Nations?

YES
I do not see how offering to give land they don’t deserve legally (and have nothing to trade for) is an “impediment to Palestinian freedom”.

Interesting you say don’t deserve….and why don’t the people who inhabited those lands deserve to remain there, and to do so in a state that is not “Jewish”.

Ahh at last the conspiracies and blood libels I mentioned in my #158.

And there you go. After 90 years of giving up land for peace and watching the seemingly unending murder of Jews, some one stands up and says enough. The Arab Palestinians had 90 years to make some kind of compromise (and stick to it), failed to do so at every turn.

Yes Bibi the Moshiach….I know I know…

Conspiracies and blood libels? Really? Are you on acid? I challenge you to find one statement i made that in any legitimate way could be characterized as such.

YET STILL there is a serious offer for peace from Israel, and if only there were an Arab Palestinian who could/would accept it the Arab Palestinians might finally know freedom.

Very serious. I know.

Israel is NOT in any way “an equal impediment to Palestinian freedom.” Not even close.