re: #16 Rightwingconspirator

Fundamentally dishonest is not an insult?

Then take a look at the FBI stats on non gun killings, and see if they match well with the skeptical quote below

Dead is dead is dead. Gun controls are one way to make it harder to kill. But not so hard it’s rare.

I was saying his argument was fundamentally dishonest, as is yours. Look at the intentional homicide rates by country. Murder is indeed comparatively “rare” in several countries, like Japan which has a rate one sixteenth of that in the United States. All of the countries with low intentional homicide rates have one thing in common, incredibly strict gun control legislation. The clear takeaway is that nation wide gun control can and does have a massive impact on ability of people to kill one another, and when you sort that list by rate you see that we are in some rather poor company.

It would be nice if you two would stop repeating this meme that is so obviously wrong on its face and cannot bear the most basic scrutiny. There’s a world of difference between the simplistic notion that it must be just as easy to kill with a knife or a hammer or strychnine and actually trying to do it. In the real world guns make a conspicuous difference, and I say this as someone who owns a bunch of the damned things.