re: #169 Salamantis

But you have no such contrary item. You can offer not one single iota or whit of credible empirical evidence that contradicts evolutionary theory, while mountains upon mountains of empirical evidence supporting it has been produced in the past century and a half. IDers don’t even do their own research, because they fear (which means that they know) that what they’ll find will support the very theory against which they rant and rave.

And yet there is the red-shift coefficient of the Big bang echo background radiation and many different methods of radiometric dating, not to mention light for far distant stars, that conclusively demonstrates that the universe and the earth are vastly older than Young Earth creationists claim, and artifactual retroviral DNA that conclusively demonstrate shared ancestry between species, which falsifies the claim that they were created independently and as is.

Are you saying that you would define empircal evidence for creationism as something that could be tested under naturalisitic processes? That seems a bit tautological, don’t you think?