re: #192 marjoriemoon

Absolutely. So nationalism is patriotism to an extreme? I mean, I can feel pride for my nation without thinking certain people should be excluded from it.

The two are close enough together that I am uncomfortable with anthems, ballads, and flags. I always have been. I was raised on stories of wartime Germany, told to me by my mother who spent her earliest years in Nazi Germany. I have an extremely hard time seeing any of that stuff as helpful or productive. I see it as dangerous.