re: #212 Dark_Falcon

Well, in the case of the Mannings (for even though Eli Manning is not as good as his older brother, he is still a good bit better than average and both men are good people) it is both. Talent combined with being raised right is the best formula for a champion.

Yeah I think it’s a little of both. Their older brother, Copper I understand was a talent too before he had a career ending injury.