re: #24 Obdicut

I’m not arguing in favor of those laws. I’m arguing that Muslim modesty isn’t different than any other kind of modesty, and that modesty is something that’s generally all over the fucking place.

If a woman wants to wear something because she wants to avoid the male gaze, I have a lot of fucking difficulty telling her she’s being oppressed and she should be open to having her body stared at by whoever wants to.

Is a women who comes from such a culture is dressing like this because of fear of being seen as immodest? Maybe. Or is she dressing like this because if she does not she will be beaten/abused/coerced forced by the male overlords in her life?