re: #116 Justanotherhuman

…Those “revolutionaries” were never personally discriminated against, had never suffered anything other than the usual life and death consequences of every other human being, but still thought they could lead a “revolution” by riffing off the real issues confronting those whose causes they embraced. And they engaged in ordinary criminal activities, including murder, to get themselves and their ideology noticed. They gave lip service to their “collective” but it was mainly a group of immature egos fighting for dominance, which is always the case when change is not a grass roots phenomenon and “revolution” dwells only in the fevered minds of the privileged who have no real idea of what oppression is and don’t really understand how it affects the lives of those who suffer it. I think the scenes from the group’s visit to the Fatah training camp was a clear example of this—they considered themselves on the same level with Fatah (who appeared to despise them as being debauched, undisciplined and disrespectful) and having the same connection with the Soviet Union, China and other countries providing Fatah weapons—and they were in over their heads by thinking that learning weaponry and “guerrilla warfare” would make them “revolutionaries”. […]

Ulrike Meinhof herself said,

“Protest is when I say this does not please me.
“Resistance is when I ensure what does not please me occurs no more.”

All about me, in the end, and the philosophy of a 2 yr old expressed in adult philosophical terminology still makes it the philosophy of a 2 yr old.

re: #127 Dr Lizardo

Hello; I take it you enjoyed the film?

I did, largely because the script, the director, and the actors struck the right balance in illustrating what they, as so-called “revolutionaries”, really stood for, which was - in the end - very little beyond lip service to Marxist ideas and principles. The scene in the Fatah camp was, for me, quite illustrative of that; the Fatah revolutionaries viewed the RAF as little more than debauched, ill-mannered narcissistic children.

THIS. I watched it last night also, or half of it anyway. By the time the bombings started in earnest and they began robbing banks and shooting anyone who got in their way, I couldn’t stand to watch any more.

Their insufferably smug self-absorption and narcissistic “revolutionary” fervor that was utterly devoid of empathy for anyone who wasn’t on-board with their bullshit agenda got on my last nerve to the point where I wanted to put my fist through my iPad’s screen, so I shut it off. Ditto for the ridiculous political propaganda-speak that seemed to gush forth every time they opened their mouths. They were exactly what I would imagine today’s puritopian dudebros would be like if they went full metal revolutionary.

Anyway, thanks for the recommendation even though I didn’t watch the whole thing, and can’t really say I enjoyed it in the conventional sense. That said, it did prompt me to do some reading up on them afterwards, so at least I learned something. That’s always a plus AFAIC.