re: #286 Ludwigvanquixote

Lo, I have been summoned…

Please look at any of the dozens of links to actual data and actual analysis I have given.

As to Subsailor,

Sub your wrong about how science works. It isn’t just that more scientists raised their hands, it is that more scientists were convinced by the evidence to the point that consensus was built. Look, I know that the science is complex and that the MSM does a terrible job of reporting it, but honestly, the science - outside of the modeling is pretty straight forward.

GHGs are quite real. When they absorb certain wavelengths of light they get hot. This is not in dispute. It follows that the more of them you pump into your atmosphere the hotter it will get.

If you buy that, you buy that a problem does exist, because it must exist.

All of the debates about how bad it will get and how soon are more complicated because there are all sorts of feedback loops and currents to try to consider. However, do not think for a moment that means there isn’t a looming problem. There is NO debate from any scientist that a problem is looming if we go on indefinitely as we are now. The only debate is how bad how soon.

Most evidence says that bad will be very bad and soon means by the end of this century.

Hi Ludwig! I accept your expertise, no question. Hey, I’m a writer, not a scientist! Just a couple of quick observations on your - pretty cool, if I might say so - post.

“GHG’s are quite real.” I can go with that. I can also go with “the more you pump into your atmosphere, the hotter it will get.” Everything you write after that is based on the premise that we are at a point where GHG’s are causing a critical situation - and that’s where scientists seem to disagree.

31,500 scientists in this country have signed a “petition”/letter saying that there is a question about this. (And yes, I know others have questioned these scientists’ motives.)

And, if - as you write - There is NO debate from any scientist that a problem is looming if we go on indefinitely as we are now. - I’d really love to have a link to data backing up that claim.