re: #302 poteen

This is where we’re missing connection. He notes and rightfully attacks the Cardinal Mahonys and ilk but also wings into entire organizations and insults the people who operate them. He and you are ignoring, in your fervor, the massive amount good work they do. Its like saying that the rider is a highwayman so lets hang the horse too. Its not a stretch to say that, in this country anyway, church based (most denominations) programs feed more of the most vulnerable people than any other.
I live in a very affluent area and the Catholic church up the street, in which I have only been once for a wedding, gives out hundreds of boxes of food every week. They also donate to larger poorer parishes in bigger cities. They feed thousands. Whether you respect them or not, they don’t deserve a lashing and Condell is a parasite for using them so.

I think you are missing a key point here. People do the good things you describe. They could do them with or without the churches, and probably would.

All you are saying is the the organization DESERVES the credit. Condell is saying the organization TAKES the credit.