re: #317 Daniel Ballard

It all represents data. These programs actually existed. Which would be directly contrary to what you suggest about Issa. If he says it’s so, it’s not. That would imply he made it all up, a separate thing from the exaggerations he did create again and again.

No fucking clue what you’re talking about. The actual ‘gun-walking’ was done by a guy not adhering to the program. That there was a plan set up to try to get the straw-sales guys, yeah. Issa’s charge was not that it happened, but that it was a grand conspiracy that the White House was involved in, and that it was done in order to surpress gun rights. On no count was he actually correct.

My differing reaction is “okay let’s see whats up, who has testified or written about it that was involved. Non GOP report results are still more data.

While the OIG report found no evidence that higher officials at the Justice Department in Washington had authorized or approved of the tactics used in the Fast and Furious investigations, it did fault 14 lower officials for related failures, including failures to take note of “red flags” uncovered by the investigation, as well as failures to follow up on information produced through Operation Fast and Furious and its predecessor, Operation Wide Receiver.

Right. So, low-level fuckups. As I said.

The report also noted ATF agents’ apparent frustrations over legal obstacles from the Phoenix Attorney’s Office to prosecuting suspected “straw-buyers,” while also criticizing the agents’ failure to quickly intervene and interdict weapons obtained by low-level suspects in the case.

Do to the toothlessness of the straw-sales laws, they tried to build a higher-level case, just as officers try to do against drug-runners.

The 14 Justice Department employees were referred for possible internal discipline. The Justice Department’s Criminal Division head Lanny Breuer, an Obama appointee, was cited for not alerting his bosses in 2010 to the flaws of Operation Wide Receiver.

And that’s about as high up as it goes. One guy didn’t tell people about how this program didn’t work so good under Bush.

So, as far as I can see, what you just posted reinforces my point.

And again: Do you want stronger regulations on straw sales to prevent guns from going to Mexico?