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Limbaugh to NYT Reporter: 'Why Don't You Just Go Kill Yourself?'

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Mad Prophet Ludwig10/20/2009 1:08:04 pm PDT

Again, it has become a terrible article of faith now for good righties to deny AGW.

We see the same play book again and again.

1. They prey on the fact that the average person will not look into the science themselves.

2. They create a false sense of controversy when there is noe and endlessly cherry pick or spout red herrings. My favorite one recently was from Beck pimping his new book about AGW - did you know Beck knows physics? Neither did I…

Beck claimed that heat related deaths have dropped continuously in America since 1920. Ditto heads will happily cluck and murmur that aha, less heat deaths means no warming! Of course even if the stat is correct, I have not fact checked it - it may even be true, it has no bearing on the discussion. Perhaps heat related deaths have dropped since 1920 because of the proliferation of air conditioning and better nutrition and hydration.

3. Then even yesterday, someone posted a link about a paper, not the paper itself, about orbital cylces. Of course the paper was referring to events 140,000 years ago that have no bearing on the present riving. But don’t let that get in the way.

Again and again, I have seen deniers here post papers that are legit, only to find they only read one sentence that they think supports them and the rest of the paper utterly debunks the false claim they are making. The opposition does not read in short.

4. If I get cranky it is because of the endless propaganda and stupidity of the other side.

It can get hard sometimes on these boards to distinguish friend from foe. For that I apologize. Sometimes someone can honestly be making a wrong point, for good reasons out of honest misunderstanding. Unfortunately, it is a point I have seen as the preamble to a denier screed a dozen times.

The biggest issue with that here, when not dealing with an out and out denier is the claim that we in the scientific community are not so certain and that the claims made about the impacts of this crisis if left unattended are too sever - that we do not know. Actually we do know. I will keep posting paper after paper to back that up.

If I wrongly snap at someone I apologize. But the truth is there and it is not a pretty one. Unlike the ID debate, lives are very much at stake. So is our whole civilization.