re: #333 marjoriemoon

Yep yep, the voluntarily/involuntarily is the difference. So what’s wrong with “ravage?” If we are voluntarily agreeing with our partner to… em… role play, I’d feel a lot better using the term. No?

Ohh there is nothing wrong with it. Again, I thought I was clear when I said:

This in of itself is neither good nor bad, right nor wrong, purple or green, or anything that could have a judgement associated with it. It also transcends gender. There are plenty of men - and I absolutely do not get it, but I can see that they exist - who want a “mean mommy” to put them in their place.

In fact, provided that everyone is consenting and that no one is physically harmed buy the act - go for it, enjoy yourself! It is certainly healthy to express yourself intimately as you would - given again that everything is voluntary and no one ends up in the ER or otherwise traumatized.

This topic came up in the context of Rand’s rape fantasies though which in conjunction with her political and economic views present a different picture.

My assertion was and is that in many ways her writings are what you get when an unhealthy view of rape fantasy begins to color everything else as a rationalization.