re: #339 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I understand that Wyden is making a big deal of Clapper’s weaseling. I don’t understand why you think it’s some huge gotcha moment.

I’m sorry, but I actually can’t tell what you’re saying. Are you saying what I’ve said Snowden claimed wasn’t was he actually said, or that he was right when he said them?

Whichever it is, instead of asserting that I’m as brainless as a climate denier, could you provide counter-proof from an actual source, not just yourself? This bit is especially weird because you seem to be mocking people here for accepting things people say, and you are asking us, to, well, just accept what you’re saying.

And it’s just you and me talking right now, why do you keep making these wild-eyes comments about ‘you’ in the plural?

So, if it was only “weaseling” why did he have to formerly in writting appologize? And it was a complete and total gotcha moment because a few days later Snowden leaked and showed that he was lying. If that isn’t a gotcha moment I don’t know what is. And what is funny almost everyone in the rest of the world thinks so to. It made headlines on all the big news papers and news shows.

Then you go to claim that one of the slides disprove the assertion that he could spy on anyone even President Obama. I have seen, read all the slides and have not seen any that refute that claim. And there are articles in the NYT and WaPo where govt officials have confirmed that he could physcially do that but was by policey required to have a Warrant and he did so without a warrant he would be caught in an audit. So he could do it but should only only do it with a warrant and would be caught if he did it. I will find the testimony in front of Congress that said so.

Then I think that you refered to the ability of the NSA for real time monitoring of data.

The Washington Post has unearthed more slides describing the US government’s PRISM surveillance program—and they help confirm the extent of the operation.

The new slides seem to support what whistleblower Edward Snowden has already claimed: that PRISM lets the NSA perform real-time surveillance of email and instant messaging.

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