re: #344 kirkspencer

True. For what it’s worth that common aspect - that there should be no welfare - is one of the reasons I say the core of libertarianism is altruistic selfishness. “Somebody who wants to help can, but you can’t make me do it.”

I don’t want to get into merits of this or that ideology (and I libertarian does appeal to me on some aspects of personal liberty) but what’s his name obdicut so almost no difference between a conservative and a libertarian and there are some major differences.

I think the libertarians are the “logical end conclusion” for those conservatives of the 1980s that came along saying they wanted less govt and less taxes. If less taxes and less govt is good then no taxes and no govt must be even better.

In a sense you can say libertarians are the mutants the Reaganite conservative ideology created and now the libertarians are the only dynamic element with the right wing that shows an ability to take over the party. I think the GOP will see a fight to the death between big govt in your bedroom and womb conservatives vs the up and coming libertarians who want to eliminate the govt from social issues and shrink the military (which is why McCain is freaked out over Rand Paul and his drone arguments).