re: #34 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Except cops train continually on the job too. There’s very few places where CCWs have that requirement.

Home defense and CCW are entirely different scenarios. And again: The point was that those people don’t need the gun. Getting real good at shooting the gun they don’t need for self-defense doesn’t make it more legitimate for self defense.

Why the fuck would you ask a question like that? That’s like, basically “Are you being dishonest and underhanded?”

No, the purpose is not deliberate discouragement. it’s based on this crazy fucking idea that people with guns, especially those allowed to just carry them around wherever the fuck they go, should be trained well enough so that they can actually respond and use them will in crisis situations.

Now that sport I mention that is CCW based? That’s how regular training and practice happens. The part you find disagreeable.

This is the reasoning I have always expressed, so can you tell me where you got the idea to accuse me of deliberate discouragement?

Calm down. It’s not necessarily that dishonest or nefarious. Or uncommon. The question was prompted after I learned how much more than police level training you suggests. CCW is included in police training, for off duty carry and detectives, and plainclothes officers.

Home defense is very different. It’s easier than CCW. By far.

No look, I don’t challenge your statistical expertise, you have the training and education. You should keep in mind I trained in firearms for 15 years.