re: #409 lawhawk

Renditions occurred going back to Reagan, and Clinton, and Bush used the same policy - but Democrats called GWB on the carpet for it. Revisionist history is rampant on both sides of the aisle these days, but give it a rest with blaming Bush for the current political environment. It’s been that way for a good long time (and long before Bush, or Clinton, or Bush 1 for that matter).

As for the excesses of the Patriot Act, care to name one that hasn’t already been revised after further Congressional acts? For all the talk about excess, many of the policies have actually been continued by the Obama Administration (which isn’t much of a surprise to me given that the Executive isn’t going to give up power it has accumulated previously).

Ohhh so then it was all ok then?

Again way to miss the point. It was wrong when Reagan and Clinton did it too. However, they had the good grace to do it on a small scale and realize it was wrong. It took the idiocy, arrogance and ego of the Bush administration to boldly make it into known policy.