re: #232 idioma
So is believing that there actually is any historically valid evidence of a nazarene savior in palestine circa 1st century.
No ding either way for parroting the line about “no historical evidence”. I suppose Buddha’s life story is totally fiction too?
Upding/downding (= 0) for the weasel word “savior”. If you don’t believe in saviors, that’s you’re affair. Prophets too, for all I care. But surely you believe in influential people? So what you’re insinuating is that if the historical person wasn’t a “savior” (whatever you understand that to mean), evidence of him/her doesn’t count. A trivial if sneaky rhetorical feint.
Downding (alas! that I have but one to give!) for the word “Palestine”, the Roman occupation name for Judah/Israel. Palaestina. It’s the equivalent of the Nazi Government renaming that part of Poland which they fully occupied das Generalgouvernement. How would you feel, if you were a Pole, about that name sticking centuries after the Germans were kicked out?
Calling Israel “Palestine” is the same thing. It’s how people get use to the idea that there is a state called “Palestine”.
Granting your blanket denial of any historical Jesus (I grant this the better to mock you later), pardoning your rhetorical chicanery, I have to inform you that any historical savior who did not exist in the first-century in that area would not have lived in Palestine, but in Israel, Judea, and surrounding areas like that of the Samaritans.