re: #434 yochanan
my D.I.L. used to live on staten island taking the ferry was how i got to the city and fun too.
The first night we took the ferry it was super fogging..You could see anything..
The deck as like a Bogart movie in black and white..
Thhe went again the next night and lo and behold..There is the Sttue of Liberty..I was blown away..It was awesome..But I also thought..My Lawd..Could you find an uglier shade of green? yuck