re: #44 lawhawk

Indeed.

More details about Abdo’s arrest, including the claim that he wasn’t going to target the base directly. Instead, he was going to bomb a restaurant frequented by base personnel. He intended to murder soldiers,their families, and anyone else who might be in the restaurant - all to protest what he considered was an “unjust war” in the ME even as he was trying to separate from the Army as a conscientious objector but facing child porn charges.

Yeah, no comparison to Breivik whatsoever. None. /[deleted] one and all.

So I would say that clearly it was not Islam that motivated him to conspire to commit these acts. It was obviously “secular” in nature. Ever if one were to say that he was motivated by a “unjust war” that would still fall into the secular category or more specifically a political motivation. Much the same as I felt what motivated Osama bin Laden was more secular in nature than Islamic. Islam didn’t motivated Osama. It was politics and to some extent his own personal life.

Al Qaeda isn’t fighting for Islam they’re fighting for political power and obviously have an Islamic nature because they are in fact Muslims. Clearly the West has proven that they are not out to oppress the Muslim religion and this can be seen with our actions in Bosnia which was in effect a defense of Muslims and Iraq where we did not undertake any action that could be perceived as the oppression of the Islamic faith.