re: #535 Justanotherhuman

I think you are mixing apples and oranges here.

I’m not going to condemn people for their choices of food, even though I don’t eat mammals myself and don’t approve of “sport” hunting. We do have a food chain in play and always have until such time as we’ve totally fucked over the planet and are eating Soylent Green.

OTOH, having sex with someone (like a minor) or a non-human “sex object” that can’t give consent is pretty out there. Anyone who thinks this is merely a “moral” argument is off their nut.

I think this is pretty close to something I’d agree with. I actually think this is less about the animal’s experience (otherwise you’d have to condemn any killing of animals, which you’re clearly not doing) and more about the human behavior. Because we don’t like the idea of humans having sex with any other thing that doesn’t “consent”, this should be banned. And I think that’s a pretty good rule of thumb.

However, it’s interesting that the “it’s for the good of the animal” argument doesn’t really apply. Interesting because it also strengthens the argument against non-consensual human-human sex - it’s not just about whether the non-consenting partner is “harmed” or not (though that’s also important) - it’s about the behavior of the perpetrator.