I think most people re: #61 chadu

My point is assigning a liberal or conservative bias to either statement is like saying “red is a liberal color” and “blue is a conservative color” — orthoganal to what the words actually mean.

Right now, they’re just being used as confirmation bias, projection, or utter fantasy labels — granted, mostly by one side.

Precisely. I mean my principle fault with conservative ideology is that its proponents are unwilling to try new ideas even though new ideas are the flow that makes society evolve. The status quo isn’t always bad and the grass isn’t always greener but we should always be open not hostile to new ideas and that in a hunch is why I’m a small letter l-liberal.