re: #12 Charles

That’s simply not true.

Charles -

Without doubt AGW does exist. The question is the effect that we mere humans bring to it - AND - what we are willing to sacrifice in material living standard -if any- we are willing to accept to do anything about it.
In my mind, I do my bit. I drive a 2 liter smallish car and either walk or bicycle on really short hops. Every light in my living and office areas is either a CFL “squigg” or conventional florescent, even keep plants around as they Breathe CO2 and exhale oxygen, besides looking nice.
Where we may agree - OR - disagree is where we go with Technology. My problem with “Extreme Environmentalists” is Now - as it has been since Earth Day One is their rejection of technology. I am in favor of the development of ALL forms of clean energy, conventional and alternate with appropriate cleanup equipment as required - I do not feel that “Professional Evironmentalists” are. I believe they would prefer to go back to a simpler, romanticised, pre-industrial time without realizing all that would entail in lifestyle changes and the death by starvation of a great part of the current human population. Every movement has its zealots to get things moving, it is up to the saner among us to do what we reasonably can do. Side thought - Too Bad Farnsworth was never able to perfect the FUSOR, had he done so this discussion would be moot.

-S-