re: #6 Kravmavolley

A couple of things you bring up.

It’s not just a matter of “doing fuck all”… it is a matter of shooting thousands of rockets at civilians. So if they have a no problem with that… then why do they have a problem with Israeli attacks that produce collateral damage?

I don’t understand what this question means. First of all, I never talked about ‘doing fuck all’, so I’m not sure why that appears in quotes. I think maybe you read too quickly, and failed to understand what I was saying.

Also you said they tried “everything else” did they ever try to make true peace one where they recognize Israel as it was created to be the National Homeland of the Jewish people? I don’t think they have tried that.

That is not a realistic thing to have happen, though. I mean, it’s great in Pollyanna land, but that is something that, if it happens, would happen at the end of a long amount of negotiation. It’s never going to emerge from the Palestinian people, and if you’re attempting a fact-based examination of the topic, this should be incredibly obvious.

In addition, ‘they’ are not a coherent group. Hamas is in control of Gaza. Protesting against Hamas accomplishes getting yourself shot by Hamas, mostly. There’s not a lot of agency for individual Palestinians. Who you’re addressing, whether it’s Palestinians or human rights people or what, kind of mixes up while you’re talking; try to frame your audience clearly in your mind.

I am no fan of the Israeli Right… but they are not even close to Hamas even in rhetoric.

They absolutely are. Have you read this?

dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com

FINALLY as for ratios. Do you really want to argue that somehow Israel is at fault for spending money on a defensive infrastructure, where Hamas spent money on tunnels and Rockets to shoot Israeli citizens?

No. If I wanted to argue that, that is what I would argue.

It really seems like you haven’t read my post at all. You’ve instead, constructed a fantasy post and attacked that. It really doesn’t do anything for the conversation when you do that. Please try to engage with what I actually say.

And please stop putting things in quotation marks I didn’t say. That is a really fundamentally dishonest thing to do and it will quickly grow incredibly tiresome.