re: #68 jamesfirecat

Given that Herman Cain himself is openly bigoted against Muslims, the fact that he’s doing well does not paint the GOP as a party of tolerance.

Also for curiosities sake, what would it take to convince you that AGW is taking place?

I don’t think the GOP wants to paint itself as a party of tolerance (particularly of damaging behavior); they’re more interested in being a party of standards.

If we can agree that AGW is three things:
1. The world is warming
2. The warming is predominantly manmade
3. The warming is catastrophic

And if we agree the solution is to damage the economy of the country that has been the greatest force for good in world history.

Then i would want empirical evidence that the world is actually warming (including taking into account for the urban effect). I would want empirical evidence that oceans are actually rising. I would want empirical evidence that arctic ice is continuing to disappear

My understanding is the world hasn’t warmed in a decade, oceans have receded in the past two years, and arctic ice has grown my more than 200,000 square miles since 2007. There wasn’t on computer model that predicted any of the three.

The amount of bad that happens in the world has an inverse relationship to the strength of the US, so I would want us to be extremely careful to make sure the science is truly settled before dramatic changes are made.

I’ll ask you the same. What would it take to convince you that AGW may be the same as past hysterical reactions such as the Population Bomb, the coming Ice Age, the impending Heterosexual Aids epidemic, the disappearing ozone layer, etc….you might understand why I’m a little skeptical.