re: #18 LudwigVanQuixote

By the way, this constitutes a real petition.

Just to link, here is what Steven Chu says about a number of these issues.

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These organizations represent tens of thousands of working scientists.

We are really long past the point where there is much in the way of debate in the community as to if we need to act.

You are right we are past the point of debate on the need to act. The problem is we are not even close to having a rational debate on HOW to act.

Here in Madison WI (One of the most left wing cities outside of CA) we can’t get alternative power even though the government and citizens want it let me cite the arguements:

Wind Power: Windmills were not allowed because they are big look ugly and birds kill themselves on them. (This was the actual argument made by an Enviromental group that opposed the project)

Solar Power: Takes up too much space to be effective and could cause unknown enviromental problems due to reflectivity over a large area. (A different enviromental group made this arguement) Also Farmers and the Chambers of commerce opposed Solar as ruining the landscape.

Nuclear: Supported by the right as clean renewable energy. Opposed by the left as “Not being a feasible power sorce in a non-socialized nation” (They actual made the argument that Nuclear can ONLY work in Europe)

Hydro-Electric: Harmful to fish and plants in the bodies of water.

And that was just the debate here where the vast majority of people AGREE that Climate Change is man made and want to fix it. Is it really any wonder nothing has been done about this?