re: #82 ericblair

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I agree with this; the Overton window isn’t a real negotiating strategy. Pushing farther and farther into your wish list doesn’t move what the other side thinks is reasonable. It just means that you and your friends are talking yourselves further into unicorn land while everyone else quietly exits out the back.

What does move the marker is what gets done, and then you have a real baseline for moving things forward.

ETA: I don’t blame Bernie for any of this, since this is Manchin’s fault and Bernie has been a total standup guy the whole time, but the Overton Window concept is Not Helpful.

It’s the same story we’ve heard time and again: Dems got “too ambitious,” asked for “too much” and “too fast,” and the conclusion will be that progressives are to blame because “moderates” like Manchin got cold feet and backed away.