Charles my sole complaint about the website is not the look the site, it’s the paypal subscribe feature. Just tried with another low limit card as per what I like to use online. It would not take my optima card before, now won’t take the other card because I have a paypal account and did not log in. asked for another email unassocated with my paypal. Fine I put one in that was just established on my work ISP this week.

Nope.

You cannot use an e-mail address or card number that belongs to an existing PayPal account. If you have a PayPal account, please log in. If you don’t, please change the e-mail address or card number and try again.

Ever considered Square? Gah, paypal sucks. Maybe the card I’m using is associated with my old Paypal account, but I don’t have my login having given up on them long ago.