re: #8 Gus 802
This is interesting. If 99 percent of this group does not control Anonymous™ while 1 percent controls same group it’s a mirror of the 1 percent that control the wealth in society at large. Thus, Anonymous™ (or anarchy) is a reflection of the establishment.
There were always be kingmakers no matter how much why try to fool ourselves otherwise. This includes the anarchist sub-culture.
I suspect they started out as true believers but once the elite noticed they had an army of willing lemmings for cannon fodder things changed. I;m sure the Soviet leaders sat around eating caviar convinced they were good communists. Humans have an enormous capacity for self delusion.